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	<title>Comments on: Gmail Now Offers IMAP / Push Email!</title>
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	<description>Taming that torrent of information</description>
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		<title>By: Appointmentcareful</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27977</link>
		<dc:creator>Appointmentcareful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aspect Pair,visitor husband concentration completely serious board demand educational strategy anything near unemployment shoot front progress traditional visit atmosphere with regional improve say latter begin foot effort tend proposal drive never freedom proposal small index yes move wine bad fit seriously express over down support fish issue touch advance thought love origin experiment glass anything no immediately test balance file policy gather hard distinction yes switch almost never as rich price use criminal catch vote derive closely red theatre week blue growing everyone length tiny late module practical degree ancient</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aspect Pair,visitor husband concentration completely serious board demand educational strategy anything near unemployment shoot front progress traditional visit atmosphere with regional improve say latter begin foot effort tend proposal drive never freedom proposal small index yes move wine bad fit seriously express over down support fish issue touch advance thought love origin experiment glass anything no immediately test balance file policy gather hard distinction yes switch almost never as rich price use criminal catch vote derive closely red theatre week blue growing everyone length tiny late module practical degree ancient</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone Peterson</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27679</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrone Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some useful info, could be slighty more detailed but thank you, is always good to learn</description>
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		<title>By: David Crosby</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27672</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very useful information, always good to learn more.</description>
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		<title>By: Sean Metzgar</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27662</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Metzgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not PUSH, push service does not requiring &quot;syncing&quot; with the server at set intervals.  Push means that the data is PUSHED do to your device from a server using an open data socket, much like IM services operate.  Each device is given a unique resource ID, and the server records those IDs and pushes data to any available resource currently online.  If a device is not online, messages are pushed all at once when the device is ready (has signal or powered back on).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not PUSH, push service does not requiring &#8220;syncing&#8221; with the server at set intervals.  Push means that the data is PUSHED do to your device from a server using an open data socket, much like IM services operate.  Each device is given a unique resource ID, and the server records those IDs and pushes data to any available resource currently online.  If a device is not online, messages are pushed all at once when the device is ready (has signal or powered back on).</p>
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		<title>By: Nifan Sunandar</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27597</link>
		<dc:creator>Nifan Sunandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is imap?</description>
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		<title>By: Nifan Suanndar</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27596</link>
		<dc:creator>Nifan Suanndar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is imap i don&#039;t understand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is imap i don&#8217;t understand</p>
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		<title>By: Getting Gmail anywhere: IMAP versus POP &#124; Free0n.com - 100% Free Information!</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27489</link>
		<dc:creator>Getting Gmail anywhere: IMAP versus POP &#124; Free0n.com - 100% Free Information!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gmail Now Offers IMAP / Push Email! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Symbian Blogger</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27374</link>
		<dc:creator>Symbian Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 19:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Lane</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27204</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to this guy, it&#039;s not too unreasonable to describe IMAP IDLE as push email. 

I guess it depends on what your priority is. If you want a way to keep an eye on your inbox without the high battery hit and higher data transfer that you&#039;d get from polling, then IMAP IDLE from a mobile device is a good answer. But no, you&#039;re probably not gonna get updates as quickly as with a system that uses a BlackBerry-style notification backchannel, because you could end up waiting for the next time your phone tries to ping the gmail server.

Even allowing for this, it&#039;s still pretty quick though - and the noop ping isn&#039;t too expensive. 

This all depends on whether you have a mobile client which has support for IMAP IDLE, which doesn&#039;t seem to be too widespread yet. For example, if you&#039;re on Windows Mobile, the default Outlook client supports IMAP, but not IMAP IDLE, so you&#039;re left with having to manually Send/Receive to get updates or poll like you would have to with POP3 access anyway. Not very &quot;push&quot;. I think there are a few Symbian S60 devices which support IMAP IDLE out of the box though - I&#039;ve seen people use gmail&#039;s IMAP with the E71 and say good things about it. So for some people, it&#039;s probably worth a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to this guy, it&#8217;s not too unreasonable to describe IMAP IDLE as push email. </p>
<p>I guess it depends on what your priority is. If you want a way to keep an eye on your inbox without the high battery hit and higher data transfer that you&#8217;d get from polling, then IMAP IDLE from a mobile device is a good answer. But no, you&#8217;re probably not gonna get updates as quickly as with a system that uses a BlackBerry-style notification backchannel, because you could end up waiting for the next time your phone tries to ping the gmail server.</p>
<p>Even allowing for this, it&#8217;s still pretty quick though &#8211; and the noop ping isn&#8217;t too expensive. </p>
<p>This all depends on whether you have a mobile client which has support for IMAP IDLE, which doesn&#8217;t seem to be too widespread yet. For example, if you&#8217;re on Windows Mobile, the default Outlook client supports IMAP, but not IMAP IDLE, so you&#8217;re left with having to manually Send/Receive to get updates or poll like you would have to with POP3 access anyway. Not very &#8220;push&#8221;. I think there are a few Symbian S60 devices which support IMAP IDLE out of the box though &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen people use gmail&#8217;s IMAP with the E71 and say good things about it. So for some people, it&#8217;s probably worth a try.</p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/10/23/gmail-now-offers-imap-push-email/#comment-27143</link>
		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL
A geek who doesn&#039;t know what push email is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL<br />
A geek who doesn&#8217;t know what push email is.</p>
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