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	<title>Comments on: Strange Maps: Border between Canada and USA</title>
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		<title>By: Stanickzai</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/07/06/strange-maps-border-between-canada-and-usa/#comment-33196</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stanickzai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am living in Washington DC, I would like to cross the Canada Bordar, how for is it, how much is the distance between Washington DC to Canada?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am living in Washington DC, I would like to cross the Canada Bordar, how for is it, how much is the distance between Washington DC to Canada?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Blanco</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/07/06/strange-maps-border-between-canada-and-usa/#comment-33078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugo Blanco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I drove into Pt Roberts. No Canada customs. US customs officer asked me, &quot;You here to visit the oddity?&quot; Gas and booze were priced in US $ but Canadian $ accepted one to one. This was, perhaps, 10 years ago. The kids, I think, can go to Canadian schools per a treaty and the BC fire brigades provide service. Cool place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drove into Pt Roberts. No Canada customs. US customs officer asked me, &#8220;You here to visit the oddity?&#8221; Gas and booze were priced in US $ but Canadian $ accepted one to one. This was, perhaps, 10 years ago. The kids, I think, can go to Canadian schools per a treaty and the BC fire brigades provide service. Cool place.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joanne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 23:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about Estcourt Station, Maine? According to Wikipedia: &quot;Estcourt Station does not have public road access to the rest of Maine (without entering Canada), although an extensive network of privately-owned logging roads (maintained by forestry companies) extends south of the community across northern Maine.&quot; Friends of mine own a camp there and they can get to it through Quebec.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Estcourt Station, Maine? According to Wikipedia: &#8220;Estcourt Station does not have public road access to the rest of Maine (without entering Canada), although an extensive network of privately-owned logging roads (maintained by forestry companies) extends south of the community across northern Maine.&#8221; Friends of mine own a camp there and they can get to it through Quebec.</p>
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		<title>By: thetannyhkid</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetannyhkid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 09:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If States of one Nation can&#039;t agree on policies, what hope is there for two Nations to agree? 
Here is the Tugun Bypass Saga - A dispute concerning funding of an important Motorway (M1) between the states of Queensland (Qld) and New South Wales (NSW) Australia.
      
The Tugun Bypass is 7.5 km long, bypassing the suburb of Tugun on the Gold Coast Qld and the Gold Coast International Airport situated on the border between the states of Qld and NSW. There is a 400-metre tunnel under the extension to the Gold Coast Airport runway. The bypass connects directly to the M1 between the Stewart Road interchange at Currumbin Qld and the Tweed Heads NSW bypass north of Kennedy Drive. It has significantly relieved traffic congestion on the Gold Coast Highway corridor. 

For more than 20 years the Gold Coast has grown by 17,000 permanent residents a year, placing enormous pressure on the city&#039;s infrastructure requirements. (in particular, the Gold Coast Highway between Currumbin Qld and Tweed Heads NSW). Speculation of the bypass began in the 1960s when the South Coast railway line was closed. (One of those stupid things thoughtless, short-sighted governments do).

It wasn&#039;t until the Qld Beattie Government was in office at the end of last century that a firm commitment was made to the bypass. In 2003 Acting Australian Prime Minister, John Anderson and Qld Transport Minister Steve Bredhauer announced a 50 per cent joint agreement for the project allowing the project to proceed. In May, 2004 the Qld and NSW Governments finally agreed to build the Tugun bypass along the western side of the Gold Coast Airport after NSW reneged on an agreement signed in 2000. The NSW government had previously been reluctant to go ahead with the project, citing environmental and planning reasons. And while NSW agreed to the plan, they refused to contribute financially to the road. 
In February, 2006 The Qld Premier announced the Australian Government had given final approval for the road, with construction to start the following month. The Premier said the Nsw Government imposed additional approval conditions that bumped up the price tag and 16 in NSW would be demolished to make way for the road.

The Pacific Link Alliance consortium won the contract to work with Main Roads to design and build the road, complete with tunnel and bridges over Hidden Valley. The tunnel was built with provision for a future rail line underneath.  The bypass was officially opened June 3, 2008.

The project is jointly funded by the Qld Government 78% and the Australian Government 22% at a cost of $543 million. Despite over 60% of the road being within NSW, there is no financial contribution towards the road from the Government of NSW.

On the Tugun bypass, there is a border marker looking like a very tall and bent metal structure that sits in the median on the border between Qld and NSW.

The Controversy
On Sunday 18 May 2008, days from the rivalry between the two states, the NSW State Government hit the Qld Government with the land tax charges for building part of the Tugun Bypass on NSW land.
The Qld Premier was mailed the land tax invoice of $235,607.40 from the NSW Government. The Premier confirmed that the bill would be ignored by Qld because they did not contribute to the $543 million project.

The NSW Office of State Revenue issued the bill to the Queensland Government on May 6, asking for the payment for five years worth of land tax assessments.The NSW Chief Commissioner of State Revenue said Qld could pay in three installments of $78,535.80 over the next three months.&quot;Failure to comply with the payment options . . . will result in the imposition of interest and the instalment plan will be cancelled. Interest will be imposed on any outstanding land tax or penalty tax. The current rate is 14.37 per cent per annum calculated daily,&quot; he said.The assessments related to 16 properties in the Tweed Shire NSW bought by the Department of Main Roads from 2001 for the bypass construction.
Qld State Treasurer Fraser said at the time of the acquisition of the 16 properties, the NSW Government provided a transfer duty exemption to Qld. This was the end of the matter as far as the Qld government was concerned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If States of one Nation can&#8217;t agree on policies, what hope is there for two Nations to agree?<br />
Here is the Tugun Bypass Saga &#8211; A dispute concerning funding of an important Motorway (M1) between the states of Queensland (Qld) and New South Wales (NSW) Australia.</p>
<p>The Tugun Bypass is 7.5 km long, bypassing the suburb of Tugun on the Gold Coast Qld and the Gold Coast International Airport situated on the border between the states of Qld and NSW. There is a 400-metre tunnel under the extension to the Gold Coast Airport runway. The bypass connects directly to the M1 between the Stewart Road interchange at Currumbin Qld and the Tweed Heads NSW bypass north of Kennedy Drive. It has significantly relieved traffic congestion on the Gold Coast Highway corridor. </p>
<p>For more than 20 years the Gold Coast has grown by 17,000 permanent residents a year, placing enormous pressure on the city&#8217;s infrastructure requirements. (in particular, the Gold Coast Highway between Currumbin Qld and Tweed Heads NSW). Speculation of the bypass began in the 1960s when the South Coast railway line was closed. (One of those stupid things thoughtless, short-sighted governments do).</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until the Qld Beattie Government was in office at the end of last century that a firm commitment was made to the bypass. In 2003 Acting Australian Prime Minister, John Anderson and Qld Transport Minister Steve Bredhauer announced a 50 per cent joint agreement for the project allowing the project to proceed. In May, 2004 the Qld and NSW Governments finally agreed to build the Tugun bypass along the western side of the Gold Coast Airport after NSW reneged on an agreement signed in 2000. The NSW government had previously been reluctant to go ahead with the project, citing environmental and planning reasons. And while NSW agreed to the plan, they refused to contribute financially to the road.<br />
In February, 2006 The Qld Premier announced the Australian Government had given final approval for the road, with construction to start the following month. The Premier said the Nsw Government imposed additional approval conditions that bumped up the price tag and 16 in NSW would be demolished to make way for the road.</p>
<p>The Pacific Link Alliance consortium won the contract to work with Main Roads to design and build the road, complete with tunnel and bridges over Hidden Valley. The tunnel was built with provision for a future rail line underneath.  The bypass was officially opened June 3, 2008.</p>
<p>The project is jointly funded by the Qld Government 78% and the Australian Government 22% at a cost of $543 million. Despite over 60% of the road being within NSW, there is no financial contribution towards the road from the Government of NSW.</p>
<p>On the Tugun bypass, there is a border marker looking like a very tall and bent metal structure that sits in the median on the border between Qld and NSW.</p>
<p>The Controversy<br />
On Sunday 18 May 2008, days from the rivalry between the two states, the NSW State Government hit the Qld Government with the land tax charges for building part of the Tugun Bypass on NSW land.<br />
The Qld Premier was mailed the land tax invoice of $235,607.40 from the NSW Government. The Premier confirmed that the bill would be ignored by Qld because they did not contribute to the $543 million project.</p>
<p>The NSW Office of State Revenue issued the bill to the Queensland Government on May 6, asking for the payment for five years worth of land tax assessments.The NSW Chief Commissioner of State Revenue said Qld could pay in three installments of $78,535.80 over the next three months.&#8221;Failure to comply with the payment options . . . will result in the imposition of interest and the instalment plan will be cancelled. Interest will be imposed on any outstanding land tax or penalty tax. The current rate is 14.37 per cent per annum calculated daily,&#8221; he said.The assessments related to 16 properties in the Tweed Shire NSW bought by the Department of Main Roads from 2001 for the bypass construction.<br />
Qld State Treasurer Fraser said at the time of the acquisition of the 16 properties, the NSW Government provided a transfer duty exemption to Qld. This was the end of the matter as far as the Qld government was concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: proudgeek</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/07/06/strange-maps-border-between-canada-and-usa/#comment-31791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudgeek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is part of my series of Strange Maps - and it looks like people thought of the same topics. Wow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is part of my series of Strange Maps &#8211; and it looks like people thought of the same topics. Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: David Petrov</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/07/06/strange-maps-border-between-canada-and-usa/#comment-31790</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Petrov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it coincidence that you called this posting &#039;Strange Maps&#039;?
http://bigthink.com/ideas/38662]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it coincidence that you called this posting &#8216;Strange Maps&#8217;?<br />
<a href="http://bigthink.com/ideas/38662" rel="nofollow">http://bigthink.com/ideas/38662</a></p>
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		<title>By: Santa Claus</title>
		<link>http://blog.proud-geek.com/2007/07/06/strange-maps-border-between-canada-and-usa/#comment-31766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Santa Claus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 03:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if the Northwest Angle were not a part of Minnesota, the northernmost point in Maine at 47 degrees 28 minutes North would still be further south of the 49th parallel which determines the US-Canada border west of Lake of the Woods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if the Northwest Angle were not a part of Minnesota, the northernmost point in Maine at 47 degrees 28 minutes North would still be further south of the 49th parallel which determines the US-Canada border west of Lake of the Woods.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Angyal (@TylerAngyal)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler Angyal (@TylerAngyal)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the 49th parallel boarder agreement was made shortly after the war of 1812. It was setup to stop boarder issues that were occurring. Any modificaton to the board at the time would have caused rifts in Canada/USA relations.

Link to article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/49th_parallel_north#The_Canada_.E2.80.93_United_States_border]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the 49th parallel boarder agreement was made shortly after the war of 1812. It was setup to stop boarder issues that were occurring. Any modificaton to the board at the time would have caused rifts in Canada/USA relations.</p>
<p>Link to article: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/49th_parallel_north#The_Canada_.E2.80.93_United_States_border" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/49th_parallel_north#The_Canada_.E2.80.93_United_States_border</a></p>
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		<title>By: vasi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vasi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And here&#039;s the one in Vermont: http://maps.google.ca/?ll=45.013497,-73.192688&amp;spn=0.004407,0.013014&amp;z=17]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#8217;s the one in Vermont: <a href="http://maps.google.ca/?ll=45.013497,-73.192688&#038;spn=0.004407,0.013014&#038;z=17" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.ca/?ll=45.013497,-73.192688&#038;spn=0.004407,0.013014&#038;z=17</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In researching Lake of the Woods on Wiki, I came across a reference that cited 4 of these non-island anomalies.  The one not mentioned here as of yet is in Vermont.

Fun stuff!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In researching Lake of the Woods on Wiki, I came across a reference that cited 4 of these non-island anomalies.  The one not mentioned here as of yet is in Vermont.</p>
<p>Fun stuff!</p>
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