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		<title>By: RealTime - Questions: "What the hell is this "spyware" and help please tell me my laptop is not done for? :(?"</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RealTime - Questions: "What the hell is this "spyware" and help please tell me my laptop is not done for? :(?"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to say thak you for the Windows Vista Annoyance 3 articel you wrote. It was so clearly explained. Everything you said would appear on the screen, DID,just as you predicted.
Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say thak you for the Windows Vista Annoyance 3 articel you wrote. It was so clearly explained. Everything you said would appear on the screen, DID,just as you predicted.<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Joe G</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 22:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ubuntu and Linux in general are still lacking too much for the average user and must be edited each time for each individual thus lacks in uniformity]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubuntu and Linux in general are still lacking too much for the average user and must be edited each time for each individual thus lacks in uniformity</p>
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		<title>By: Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bad thing is so many stupid people getting viruses and now MS has locked down my own pc even to me a huge pain in the ass. If MS had just put as much effort in to a good firewall as they did trying to convince people there OS was safe it actually would have been an easyer approach. Ever wonder how much effort was totaly waisted on 256bit icons, I mean who gives a fuck. It&#039;s like a really high end paint job an a car with no motor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bad thing is so many stupid people getting viruses and now MS has locked down my own pc even to me a huge pain in the ass. If MS had just put as much effort in to a good firewall as they did trying to convince people there OS was safe it actually would have been an easyer approach. Ever wonder how much effort was totaly waisted on 256bit icons, I mean who gives a fuck. It&#8217;s like a really high end paint job an a car with no motor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sharing Vista Question -  In Vista if I share my Videos or Music folder (any folder under the users name) - the Shareing is automaticially turned on for the Root USER folder.  C:\User (in fact turning sharing on for all the users folders).

It does this on both my vista machines - and I see postings about it with no solutions on the web.

If you have an answer please let me know.
Thanks
Jim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharing Vista Question &#8211;  In Vista if I share my Videos or Music folder (any folder under the users name) &#8211; the Shareing is automaticially turned on for the Root USER folder.  C:\User (in fact turning sharing on for all the users folders).</p>
<p>It does this on both my vista machines &#8211; and I see postings about it with no solutions on the web.</p>
<p>If you have an answer please let me know.<br />
Thanks<br />
Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the band-aid.

On the vista box restart the server service and the browser service and it will work for a while. I am still looking for fix.

Brad]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the band-aid.</p>
<p>On the vista box restart the server service and the browser service and it will work for a while. I am still looking for fix.</p>
<p>Brad</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The name isn&#039;t the computer name. It is the login name for your computer, your user account name.  For example, my computer has an admin account &quot;Jeff&quot; and a non admin account called &quot;user.&quot;   

When it&#039;s asking who you want to share with you can select, &quot;Jeff&quot; or &quot;user&quot; or everyone which shares it between both user accounts.  This way whether you&#039;re logged in as Jeff or User you can access this file.  

What file sharing does is allows other user accounts to access a file on your computer.  For example, my coworkers can access a shared folder on my desktop by logging into the generic user account (user in this example) from their computers.  So I&#039;m logged in my computer as the Admin, &quot;Jeff.&quot; At the same time one or several of my coworkers are logged to my computer, using a user account that I created on my computer called &quot;user&quot;

If all of your computers have enabled &quot;allow file sharing, and allowed network discovery,&quot; you can click the network button (start menu) and select laptop and log in using the 2nd user account.

Assuming this is an office, or home office, here is what I would suggest doing: 
1: Create a 2nd user account on the PC (not admin)
2: Create a new folder which will be your &quot;network folder&quot; that everyone will have access to.
3: Allow sharing on that folder, select share with everyone when it asks for your name.  Allow at least three simultaneous users (or more if you want to add more later).
4: Make sure Network Discovery and file sharing are allowed on all 3 computers AND MAKE SURE YOUR NETWORK IS SECURE!!!!!
5: Each of the 2 PCs can right click on the start menu, click network, login using the PC&#039;s second user name and password (what you created in step 1)
, and have access to the shared folder.


You&#039;ll have to give the 2nd user name the permissions you want in step 3.  For example, my coworkers all have read/write access which allows them to modify files.  I&#039;d take away write access if I wanted them only to see the files in my (our) shared folder.  

Let me know if this helps.  If this application isn&#039;t relevant to your needs, let me know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name isn&#8217;t the computer name. It is the login name for your computer, your user account name.  For example, my computer has an admin account &#8220;Jeff&#8221; and a non admin account called &#8220;user.&#8221;   </p>
<p>When it&#8217;s asking who you want to share with you can select, &#8220;Jeff&#8221; or &#8220;user&#8221; or everyone which shares it between both user accounts.  This way whether you&#8217;re logged in as Jeff or User you can access this file.  </p>
<p>What file sharing does is allows other user accounts to access a file on your computer.  For example, my coworkers can access a shared folder on my desktop by logging into the generic user account (user in this example) from their computers.  So I&#8217;m logged in my computer as the Admin, &#8220;Jeff.&#8221; At the same time one or several of my coworkers are logged to my computer, using a user account that I created on my computer called &#8220;user&#8221;</p>
<p>If all of your computers have enabled &#8220;allow file sharing, and allowed network discovery,&#8221; you can click the network button (start menu) and select laptop and log in using the 2nd user account.</p>
<p>Assuming this is an office, or home office, here is what I would suggest doing:<br />
1: Create a 2nd user account on the PC (not admin)<br />
2: Create a new folder which will be your &#8220;network folder&#8221; that everyone will have access to.<br />
3: Allow sharing on that folder, select share with everyone when it asks for your name.  Allow at least three simultaneous users (or more if you want to add more later).<br />
4: Make sure Network Discovery and file sharing are allowed on all 3 computers AND MAKE SURE YOUR NETWORK IS SECURE!!!!!<br />
5: Each of the 2 PCs can right click on the start menu, click network, login using the PC&#8217;s second user name and password (what you created in step 1)<br />
, and have access to the shared folder.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to give the 2nd user name the permissions you want in step 3.  For example, my coworkers all have read/write access which allows them to modify files.  I&#8217;d take away write access if I wanted them only to see the files in my (our) shared folder.  </p>
<p>Let me know if this helps.  If this application isn&#8217;t relevant to your needs, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeannie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have 3 computers, 2 of which are laptops.  I have set up file sharing on the PC and 1 laptop, but the other laptop will not let me set up by right clicking on a folder, clicking share, then it asks for name.  I put in the name of the computer I want to share with and a box pops up that says.... can&#039;t find user ..... this is a Vista operating system.. the other laptop is also Vista and it let me set up this other laptop ... any suggestions??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have 3 computers, 2 of which are laptops.  I have set up file sharing on the PC and 1 laptop, but the other laptop will not let me set up by right clicking on a folder, clicking share, then it asks for name.  I put in the name of the computer I want to share with and a box pops up that says&#8230;. can&#8217;t find user &#8230;.. this is a Vista operating system.. the other laptop is also Vista and it let me set up this other laptop &#8230; any suggestions??</p>
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		<title>By: UnclearFizzyCyst</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UnclearFizzyCyst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, er, that was rather embarrassing :{

I just looked at one of my W2K laptops on my Vista and all the shared stuff&#039;s right there before my very eyes!!!

Now, I may be old but I don&#039;t think I&#039;m senile (yet).

I&#039;ve configured and checked until dawn, shut down all my anti-this anti-that stuff to no avail.

However, this DOES mean there&#039;s light at the end of the tunnel somewhere.

Good luck out there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, er, that was rather embarrassing :{</p>
<p>I just looked at one of my W2K laptops on my Vista and all the shared stuff&#8217;s right there before my very eyes!!!</p>
<p>Now, I may be old but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m senile (yet).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve configured and checked until dawn, shut down all my anti-this anti-that stuff to no avail.</p>
<p>However, this DOES mean there&#8217;s light at the end of the tunnel somewhere.</p>
<p>Good luck out there.</p>
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		<title>By: UnclearFizzyCyst</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UnclearFizzyCyst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vista and W2K (2000). After around three weeks of intermittent and frustrating activity here&#039;s what I&#039;ve found. It aint nice...

Beginning with XP Microsoft switched from an open standard packet protocol to a propiertry (?) protocol that &quot;...reduces the command from (hundreds) to only 19 ...&quot; and speeds up communications. All well and good and also bacwardly compatable as it can send replies in the old format too.

However, it cannot (ie has been made not to) issue requests in old format over the Microsoft Client For File And Print Sharing (and many other) utilities.

Soooo, other pre-XP computers on the network can &#039;request&#039; and be granted access to public folders/printers etc (ie W2K can see/read/write to them) BUT Vista cannot do the same with pre-XP machines.

This means that you must cross their palms with silver, either by buying a Vista uprade or replacing anything so old and lame as not to be able to run it  with a brand spanking new computer running XP or Vista.

In other words it&#039;s the sales teams way of saying FU as**ole.

They&#039;ve been playing these games since the early 90&#039;s &#039;O/S wars&#039;. Why? Because there&#039;s really nowhere else to shop :(

So, my old reliable dual 450MHz file server (that&#039;s all it does, a centralized place for my data all set up and configured nicely with back-ups etc) will now have to be junked (like its EISA OS/2 predecessor) and I&#039;ll have to spend around 25-30 hours configuring its replacement (like, I don&#039;t have anything else to do, right?).

Now.... if an enterprising firmware writer could program a conversion interface.... oops, that&#039;s right, I bet MS won&#039;t let you have any info...

Enough ranting. Basically if it&#039;s pre-XP it&#039;s obsolete. Good luck to you all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vista and W2K (2000). After around three weeks of intermittent and frustrating activity here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve found. It aint nice&#8230;</p>
<p>Beginning with XP Microsoft switched from an open standard packet protocol to a propiertry (?) protocol that &#8220;&#8230;reduces the command from (hundreds) to only 19 &#8230;&#8221; and speeds up communications. All well and good and also bacwardly compatable as it can send replies in the old format too.</p>
<p>However, it cannot (ie has been made not to) issue requests in old format over the Microsoft Client For File And Print Sharing (and many other) utilities.</p>
<p>Soooo, other pre-XP computers on the network can &#8216;request&#8217; and be granted access to public folders/printers etc (ie W2K can see/read/write to them) BUT Vista cannot do the same with pre-XP machines.</p>
<p>This means that you must cross their palms with silver, either by buying a Vista uprade or replacing anything so old and lame as not to be able to run it  with a brand spanking new computer running XP or Vista.</p>
<p>In other words it&#8217;s the sales teams way of saying FU as**ole.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve been playing these games since the early 90&#8242;s &#8216;O/S wars&#8217;. Why? Because there&#8217;s really nowhere else to shop :(</p>
<p>So, my old reliable dual 450MHz file server (that&#8217;s all it does, a centralized place for my data all set up and configured nicely with back-ups etc) will now have to be junked (like its EISA OS/2 predecessor) and I&#8217;ll have to spend around 25-30 hours configuring its replacement (like, I don&#8217;t have anything else to do, right?).</p>
<p>Now&#8230;. if an enterprising firmware writer could program a conversion interface&#8230;. oops, that&#8217;s right, I bet MS won&#8217;t let you have any info&#8230;</p>
<p>Enough ranting. Basically if it&#8217;s pre-XP it&#8217;s obsolete. Good luck to you all.</p>
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